49ers Own Bay Bragging Rights

The 49ers scored late in the 4th with a Thomas Clayton touchdown to go up 26-21. I haven’t watched the game yet but from hearing others seems that tackling is still an issue. Aside from that the numbers from Alex Smith look good. 8-12 for 106 yards and a TD. Also seems Ashley Lelie is making Nolan take notice by showing his skills and trying to lockdown the No. 3 wide receiver spot.

On the defensive side of the ball rookie Patrick Willis had 7 tackles and Mark Roman came up with an interception.

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~ by 49ersNews on August 18, 2007.

56 Responses to “49ers Own Bay Bragging Rights”

  1. FUCK U RAIDER FANS UR ANNOUNCERS MAKE IT SOUND LIKE UR IN THE PLAYOFFS U SCORED ON OUR SECOND D NOT THE FIRST KWAME HAS TO GO OR HE WILL GET ALEX HURT

  2. i;m really hoping Ashley Lelie can win that 3rd wide receiver spot. With his speed and D Jax route running that should open alot of things up. If Ashley can have another game like he had tonight he should be a lock for that number 3spot. Speed kills and he has shown that he can get behind the defence when he was in Denver and in Atl.I hope that we can get this tackling problem undercontrol i;m not really worried right now but that is something that we have got to get our hands on cause it can come back to bite us. Other than those two things i feel goot about were our young team is going

  3. I just got the score over here in philly and I said that Thomas Clayton looks like a good draft pick from what I’ve seen from the highlight reel that was on 49erswebzone after the draft but futher more WHAT’S UP RAMS WHERE YA AT YOU TALK SO MUCH SHIT SO WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY ABOUT YOUR BOYS GETTING THEIR ASSES KICKED?

  4. With that kind of money, we are paying A.Lalie.He better win something!!We need to go back to a 4-3 defense if Franklin or Young have injuries this season.I didnt see the game but i heard we missed tackles again.And did V.D. catch anything in this game?And did we have a pass rush this time against a bad offensive line that Oakland has?

  5. I seen the Alex Smith highlights on nfl.com!Its starting to look like a pretty good tight duo with D.Walker/Vernon Davis!But if we spread the ball around since we got alot of decent receivers we might not have a 1000 yard receiver again..lol

  6. tight end duo…….i ment

  7. There was some good and some bad.

    Our 1st Team Offense was stellar. I wasn’t completely sold on Alex Smith until this game. He’s showing great poise and constant growth. Vernon Davis finally got into the game, which was refreshing. Still, I think he could be more utilized. More than anything, he seems to be taking defenders on and leaving others (Delanie Walker, for example) open. Our running game sub-par, but we still don’t have Gore in there. Pass protection was adequate, but it seemed like our blockers weren’t creating too many holes for Hicks/ Robinson.

    Our D still needs LOTS of work. Poor tackling hurt us again. We had a lot trouble stopping the run (especially Lamont Jordan) and our pass rush should have been stronger considering how bad the Raider O-line is. Considering that this is one of the worst offensives in the league, our performance was very disappointing. If the Raiders had just been able to catch the ball when they were WIDE OPEN, the game would not have come down to the ridiculous dropped pass at the end…The Raiders would have won. Our DBS did well. Clements showed that he can tackle, unlike the rest of the team, but did little else (although few balls were thrown his way). Roman had an interception, but also had a bad missed tackle. Lewis was not exposed in coverage and was able to help the LBs get some tackles that they were apparently trying to miss. I thought Spencer looked solid, but I’ve always liked Spencer.

    2nd-3rd O- Team: I don’t care what everyone else says, Dilfer is not a very good QB. There…I said it. He may know a lot about the position, but he just doesn’t have it. On the other hand, I’ve been very impressed with Shaun Hill…until he gets to the redzone. For some reason, he just falls apart when he gets close to the endzone. Clayton did alright, but he needs to stop dancing and just hit the holes quickly. He runs like a big guy, but he’s not a big guy. On a few plays, including a goaline stop, he just didn’t seem to have the strength. For a 4th string RB though, he’ll be alright, although I wonder why we didn’t pick up a true goaline scorer in the draft or elsewhere. Our WR situation is absolutely ridiculous. We have 7 receivers who could make this team. Of course, Jackson, Battle, Lelie, and Hill will make the team (although Hill hasn’t done much in the preseason or, from what I hear, in training camp). That leaves Gilmore, Williams, Jacobs, and Maxwell fighting for 2 and possibly 1 spot. Personally, i would cut Williams…I just don’t like him and it’s not like he’s a great KR/PR. Gilmore had a fantastic game. Taylor Jacobs has had a great camp, but hasn’t been fantastic in preseason. Last year, Maxwell could have been our 3rd receiver in some games, but he won’t make the team this year. It’s a shame, he’s a solid #4 and I don’t know where he’s going to go w/o NFL Europa (GO SEA DEVILS!). The line looked ok and Staley really played well. Baas probably scored some points against Smiley just because he didn’t have 2 straight holding penalties (even if one of those was bogus). Kwame played well for Kwame. Remember, he was going up against Burgess, a solid pass rusher, and he only got to the QB twice. I wasn’t too happy with the left side of the line with our 2-3 team. I don’t even know who those guys are, but they were letting the Raiders get too much penetration.

    2-3 Defense: Well, our 2nd team D-line started today so that really wasn’t fair. For backups they’re pretty good. Most of the 2nd team LBs are basically there for special teams, with the exception of Willis who was once again solid but disapointingly blase considering all the hype he’s received. The real place to look in the 3rd and 4th quarters are the defensive backs. Keith Lewis once again was not really concerned with coverage as long as he could smack people. Hudson played well, as did Strickland. Curry was caught daydreaming during the Raiders final 40 yard completion.

    In all, not a great performance considering that it was the Raiders.

  8. it is 3 o clock in the morning in philly and im watching the raiders/49ers game on nfl net.

  9. Great to get the win…..stilll need to stop the run an tackle….Alex is still on Fire an big VD showed a glimse of them skills now just wait till Gore comes back…….ohhh yaeh!

  10. Curry will be cut soon!!!And on alot of plays i see Derick Smith coming in trying to make a tackle AFTER the guy is already down .LMAO…. WWWWWWWWWWE NEED WILLIS IN THERE!

  11. I am going to be the first to say that it is Moore and not Smith that Willis needs to replace. Moore is great at the line, but in open field coverage is not what Willis is. As for Kwame…I am with Medford, Oregon….Staley needs to start. Staley is much more solid and it is apparent that the ENTIRE league knows that speed rushers KILL him. Staley outperformed him by far. As for our receiver situation…I have to agree that Gilmore has outperformed Brandon Williams. There is no way to dispute it. Dilfer is necessary because he is someone who has experienced the promise land ( no matter how much you say he is no Montana, Young, Brady, Elway). He is someone that Alex confides in and seeks guidance from and it is paying off because he looks confident and decisive on the field. I am glad to see McDonald given the chance to start. However, we need to spend a second or first round pick on the d line next draft…period. I think Franklin is going to settle things, and Walt Harris is going to lock down the secondary. This is a great thing…also giving Gore the chance to relax and get the engine fresh for the year isn’t going to hurt.

  12. I’m starting to think the only reason Willis isn’t starting right now is because he’d see less PT in the pre-season if he was first string.

  13. Our main problem is we don’t have a pass rush at all!

  14. Good calls Machiavelli,
    Alex continues to impress. (Except the one play where Kwame wiffs again)
    Play wise I’m not that happy with either backup quarterback. But as has been said over and over, Dilfer is here to school Alex, and has done a great job. (So they keep telling us) Heaven help the team if Alex goes down….
    Nobody cuts a SuperBowl quarterback if he’s good!
    Defensively, those run holes and receivers left wide open scare the hell out of me! Close up ranks people! (Thanks for tackling better this week though)

  15. It’s been an early morning on the East Coast to watch the game but it’s always good to see the Niners in action. I’ve read all the comments regarding the game and my two cents.

    Yes, I agree with the fact that the miss tackles are an issue. Thank goodness we’ve got Patick Willis to show us how it’s done. He should teach a clinic in practice on how to wrap a guy up.
    Leading the team with 8 tackles.

    Keep in mind we performed well against Oakland’s #1 offense without 3 of our projected D starters…Franklin, Douglas and Young. Douglas was out due to personal reasons. Those 3 guys make a BIG difference in what we can do on defence!

    As for the Offensive Line Bass and Staley looked good in their bids to take over for Justin (I hold too much) Smiley and Harris.
    I hope they do!

    There’s nothing wrong with Trent Dilfer, he led the team down the field twice on nice drives and was 7/11 on 77 yards and a touchdown.

    Delanie Walker looked good and I’ve been a fan of his from last year’s Preseaon games, until he went down with the injury. There’s nothing wrong with 2 quality TEs.

    And Ashley Lelie’s going to have a great year from what I see. He just needs to continue what he’s doing and he’ll be in the mix for the 3rd WR and coming in on 3rd downs to stretch the field. He and Alex seem to have some chemistry and D’Jx looks great!

    Bring on the Da Bears!!

  16. There was a play or two where Willis was out of position and the Oakland back ran right past him. He’s still young. Brandon Moore’s tackling was still rusty early on. The defensive line, without any of the starters, is still a big question mark for me.

    I’d put Clayton ahead of Robinson by what I saw, but then no one runs well against the Raiders’ first-string.

    Delanie Walker looks good. Lelie looks good. Jackson looks good. Alex Smith looks very good. The backup QBs look adequate. With Frank Gore in there the offense could be very, very potent. This is the pre-season so I expect the wraps are still on a lot of their offense.

    I know the hate directed against Kwame, but he wasn’t bad last night. Smiley, on the other hand, had some problems with his hands. Someone with more of a handle on the process can help me, but if Harris and Smiley are signed by other teams next year as free agents do the Niners get additional draft choices? If they don’t I’d trade these two guys. They both can play in the NFL and linemen are a valuable commodity. That says something about the roster depth that the Niners have this year.

  17. ok seriously the D needs to get their shit together if were going to beat the Cardinals.I could really care less about the preseason……I just want them to put a beat down on the Cards.you can only go so far with a defense that cant tackle or stop the run……for instance the colts last year….before the playoffs…..I believe Jacksonville opened up a forty-burger on them.

  18. The way I see it…. The Cards game in Week 1 is going to really show if we are a playoff team or not. Honestly, Week 1 is crucial for the success and confidence of the team. The 2 losses to the Cards last year really hurt, if we dont win the first game the mindset of the team will be the same. This team has been on the rise since Nolan got here, so anything but the playoffs this year will be failure in my book.

  19. R,Craig33 — hello DID YOU ASK for me? IM back only because you wanted me to come.

  20. OK first of all I know you aint talking. Your piece of shit defense cant even tackle. F U N D A M E N T A L S… You learn that shit in high school or peewee leauge. Just because your offense appears to be playing well dosen’t mean that you are going to play well in the reg season.

  21. R,Craig33—smiley is ass also, he cant even block. One thiung though, you dont like kwame harris because he give a couple sack but REMEMBER!!! Gore gain most of his yards from that right side–apparently something is working right—u niner fans dont know how to analize—you fucking stink

  22. But—Analize this—we are going to score so much points on your piece of shit of corners. Who is going to tackle EVEN STEVEN, not mooore. and dont even say that fucking over rated Patick Willis. Willis doen’t even know who to tackle. he runs like a bullet into the blocker and misses the runner.

    We had a slightly bad preseason but only because Even Steven was not there.

    R,Craig33 you aint shit plus you from yhe east coast…how are you a niners fan…ohhh wait, its probably when they went to the superbowl and you jumped on the bandwagon..

    hAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  23. thought they were.
    They are who we thought they were.
    Da Bears!!! R who we thought THey WERE.

    Gore broke his little hand,,awe so sorry. he is so injury prone and your organization doesn’t even see it.

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  26. WOW,you are a loser. you say yhtat the fag rams didnt plaay good cause you didnt have jackson well we didnt have gore idiot and still won. also you are a dumb ass gore had more yards on the left behind allen and jennings. and i cant wait till we burn you during the season cause you wont have your juiced up corner back for the first four games. and harris and clements are gonna lock shit down on holt and that 70 year old bruce. once again rams go blow a ram and choke on it you fag.

  27. FranktheTank lets get it str8 your are the fag for being a niners fans—Jennings and allen was hurt almost 1/3 of the season so how can that be you stupid fuck…i know more about your team than you..so next time read biotch….read stats and shit…

  28. rams just shut the fuck up ur team sux and the only good thing thats ahead for the rams is the first overall pick in 08.

  29. Ninaz pick these nutz in your mouth.

  30. W.T.F. this is a 49ers web sight,not a rams sight!First it was the Dallas then it was Seatle now it is the Rams.I wish you would pick a team and stick with it (on there web sight).FRONTRUNNER!!!And how can Ninaz put your nuts in his mouth when you are a huge PUSSY, bitch,and your a retart for being a Rams fan.And yes the rams do have decent players but go talk about it with a rams partner.AND WHAT THE FUCK YOU GOING TO DO NOW BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Probley nothing!because your to week to do anything that doesnt have anything to do with a keyboard and computer.You talk like that on the the street you will be the loser.You Bechwarmer shit stain!!!

  31. benchwarmer shit stain!!!!!!!!

  32. Not one player had a sack in this game! I understand that Young and Franklin are injured, but our run defense is atrocious. We need to sign a big NT in free agency, someone who can take on blockers and open the lanes for our LBs.

  33. rams get a life i hate the rams but you dont see me talking shit at their website, it proves nothing and its a waste of time. the rams suck period and the niners are better just stop being jealous of our team.

  34. benchwarmer shit stain!!!!!!!!

    LOL

    Thats Original

  35. Raiders are the Niners of the afc. whats up with all the hate. my fav team in SF but my second is raiders. both teams are best at their confrence.

  36. Rams your team sucks and you have nothing better then to trash talk the 49ers. i cant wait till the 49ers play the rams and then we will see who is better. and also i know a million times more about the 49ers the you will ever know. ps Your a Fag

  37. did anyone notice brandon moores unbelievable drop-off from last season? he seems to miss every tackle. i hope he gets back to his form of last season when he initiated the 9ers turnaround as the main factor in their three game winning streak. i cant stand the thought of having to see smith yet another season! because if moore continues to suck like this willis and smith will start against arizona.

  38. fucking rams we kick your motherfucking ass almost everytime we play you so idk why the fuck ur saying the niners suck RAMS SUCK BIG DICK!!!

  39. […] 49ers Own Bay Bragging Rights The 49ers scored late in the 4th with a Thomas Clayton touchdown to go up 26-21. I haven’t watched the game yet […] […]

  40. First of all rams I was only fucking with you about the game and having fun and I’ve been a niners fan for over 25 years PROBABLY LONGER THAN YOU HAVE EVER BEEN A RAMS FAN! 2.You’re coming on a 49ers blog talking shit HOW SMART IS THAT? 3.I didn’t call you out of your name BUT YOU PROBABLY WAS PISSED OFF BECAUSE YOU TALKED ALL THAT SHIT AND THE REAL RAMS GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED! 4.PUSSY DON’T CALL ME OUT OF MY NAME AGAIN BUT YOU PROBABLY WILL ON SOME REAL PUSSY SHIT! 5.What are you saying? I don’t have to be from the west coast to be a diehard 49ers fan and it’s other true diehard 49ers fans that’s on here that’s from the east coast you didn’t even say from san fran you said east coast FUCKING DICKHEAD! 6.I was going to give your boy’s some props for getting off the line and getting some good sacks but FUCK IT AND YOU! 7.GET THE FUCK OFF OF HERE AND STAY OFF YOU DON’T EVEN STAY REAL ABOUT SHIT ATLEAST BE AGREEABLE ABOUT SOME THINGS BUT YOU ENVY ALL OF US REAL NINERS FANS AND THE 49ERS TEAM AND TRADITION BECAUSE THE RAMS DON’T HAVE A TRADITION THEY ONLY TRADITION THEY HAVE IS ERICK DICKERSON AND MARSHALL FAULK, FUCK YOU AND YOUR 1 SUPERBOWL HAVING ASS TEAM (STAY THE FUCK OFF OF HERE PUSSY)!

  41. you guys should just ignore that douchebag rams fan.just ignore the little bastard.I just want some 49ers news not Ramsfan bitching and moaning.thanks.

  42. I think we should move Vernon Davis to receiver and see how it works. I think he will get more catches and be distructive as a blocker. He will fuck up those Corners & Safetys and his maneuverability is unbelievable! Coach Nolan should experiment with this idea, I think it will be very effective. I think this will make him the best receiver in the league. Vernon will get more catches and no one has seen a beast at receiver like him. Move the fuck over T.O., theirs a new kid in Town!

  43. arizona must be defeated and i would’nt be upset if we take their precious QB OUT of the game with some brutal hits

  44. Um, rams? Gore gained most of yards running to left, behind big Jonas Jennings and Larry. If you actually knew anything about the team you would know this. Of course, you don’t, and you’re just here to talk crap.

    Also whoever said Harris wasn’t bad made me laugh. He was only on the field for two series and gave up a sack. That is bad.

  45. >Jennings and allen was hurt almost 1/3 of the season so how can
    >that be you stupid fuck…i know more about your team than you..so
    >next time read biotch….read stats and shit…

    That’s funny, cause the stats say Gore ran for 790 yards to the left, 555 yards up the middle, and 350 yards to the right

    It’s all right here:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/splits?playerId=8479

    You know nothing about the Niners.

  46. *Allen played 11 games

    *Jennings played 13 games

    ***Harris (KWANME) played all 16 games
    ***Smiley played all 16 games

    Phil, you sick dick head, what you need to know about football is that there is a weak side and a stong SIDEEEEEEEE. That weak side is easier to run to (which is the left) why do you think that the best defender are on the right side. You guys bash your linemen and dont even know that he has had to endure very skilled D Ends. Put Lenord Little on Jonas lazy ass and you’ll see how bad we’ll make his black ass look. Kwame is a Bad pass blocker but he is a GOOD Run blocker thats all I was tring to say. But you think thats it all in the stats, so Phil — i will repeat again, like i said to many of you niner fans—you dont know shit about your team. Theres a reason Y Noalan “who smwlls like colan” didn’t release Harris BIOTCH……..

    WHOOOOOA

  47. Hey R,Craig33, i dont care if you were only fucking with me about the game and having fun, this is a fourm and i could voice my opinion even if im not a niner fan. SO–YOU FAGGOT–IAM CALLING YOU OUT. If you really want to talk football then say something about it, instead of making Gay as comments like “where is the rams fan” you aint shit anyway

  48. um, I dont really know the history here, but you “rams” are totally incorrect about which side is easier to run to. It is the strong side, where the tight end is. good pass rushers are on the weak side because they don’t have to chip the tight end to mess up his route and not let him get a free release. this is why left tackles are the franchise linemen, to protect the blindside against pass rush specialists. also, strong side linebackers are bigger due to more running plays going to strong side. Why are you trolling on this site if you are a rams fan anyways?

  49. however, the niners situation is different because they have allen and jennings on the left, so we would obviously run more that way

  50. and, little is a pussy ss just like strahan. they go up against shitty right tackles

  51. Wow, you really are stupid. Generally a team’s best pass rushing DE will line up at RDE and go against left tackles. The best offensive linemen are Left Tackles. It is by far the highest paid offensive line position on average. Orlando Pace, Walter Jones, Willie Roaf (before he retired this year), Jonathon Ogden: all left tackles.

    Harris is a good run blocker but Allen is a run blocking machine and Jennings is damn good too. Staley is pretty much guaranteed to be starting at RT at some point this year. The reason Harris wasn’t released is because Staley was considered to be a raw player who might need more experience before being able to start but he has exceeded all expectations. His strength is pass blocking and he will most likely be switched over to LT next year or the year after.

    And the right side is usually easier to run to because that’s where the tight end lines up. Another blocker is obviously going to make it easier to run to that side.

    Most backs have a pretty even split between yards to the left and runs to the right (check out your boy Jackson’s splits if you don’t believe me). Gore has more than twice as many yards to the left as the right. Obviously this means that is easier to run behind Jennings and Allen than it is to run behind Harris and Smiley (although it helps that Smiley is really good at pulling so he can get out ahead on runs to the left and open up even more running room).

    You’re just embarrassing yourself here with your lack of football knowledge.

  52. Forget to mention: I know all about strong sides and weak sides (more than you, obviously). It’s called the strong side for a reason: the TE lines up there so that is where the line is the “strongest” (read: easiest to run to). And the Niners didn’t go out and draft an OT in the first round to replace Harris because Harris is good.

  53. One more thing: LOL @ Patrick Willis not knowing how to tackle. He was third in the NCAA in tackles last year.

    The man is a tackling machine.

  54. hey remember last year in pre season Mike Rumph missed like twenty tackles…..where’s he at now?

  55. my bad about the last comment….thought this was Willis unseats Moore.

  56. Third generation niners fan here. Loved the game. Yes, we almost lost it with that ultra crazy throw into the end zone by the raiders the last-what?-fourteen seconds? But we didn’t!:)
    Right. So we could work on that defense a bit, eh? We may not be blessed with a butterfingers next time. But I did like Lelie’s performance.
    And Alex Smith is my new hero. Really. Don’t laugh. I love him.

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